Discussion:
FL to CA
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¥ UltraMan ¥
2007-09-30 07:10:01 UTC
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OI!
My hubz and I are fine-tuning our game plan for The Big Move once I
get my BA in a few years... we currently live in Jacksonville, FL and
want to move to either Colorado or California while I pursue my
Psychology Masters and hubz continues to work as a dental lab tech.
(Yes, he makes teeth... ha!)
Currently, we enjoy a very comfortable cost of living ~ our combined
annual salary is over $60k and our mortgage payment is only $820. We
probably won't be able to go over that very much once we make The Big
Move because I may have to cut back on my work while in the Masters
program.
We've looked at Denver and Fort Collins at good choices... can anyone
give their two cents about these places and any others?
Ft Collins is a red-neck cowtown, about 1/7th the population of Jacksonville.
You'll be bored to tears.

Denver has almost the same population as Jville, more if you include the
immediate
surrounding suburbs ~900k. An urban and suburban environment with 100x more
social
activities than the Fort.

Your biggest issue will be cost of living sticker shock, median home price
~$260,000

There is NO WATER in Colorado as you are used to in Florida, the "rivers" are no
bigger than streams, the "lakes" are reservoirs, and there is no navigable body
of
water in the entire state. It's high-desert.

It's also a RED state, full of lying, perverted, inbred, hyper-religious,
homo-phobic,
war-mongering Repugnikan scum. If that floats your boat, bring your crucifix,
bible,
racism and bigotry - ground zero for those wretches is Colorado Springs.

On the other hand, if you want a true liberal / libertarian environment to live
in,
then keep heading west to California, as close to San Francisco as you can
afford, and live happily ever after, with sun, fun, freedom, water, ocean,
mountains
and nary a neo-con repugnikan in sight.
Thanks in advance!
meg
Daniel Packman
2007-09-30 20:34:08 UTC
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In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
¥ UltraMan ¥ <***@man.jp> wrote:
.....
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
It's also a RED state, full of lying, perverted, inbred, hyper-religious,
homo-phobic,war-mongering Repugnikan scum. If that floats your boat,
bring your crucifix, bible, racism and bigotry - ground zero for those
wretches is Colorado Springs.
.....

Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly has
a monopoly. Politically, the state seems to be in transition to a
better place. Also, the Denver urban area tends to be much less RED
than the rural areas. But this is true nationally.
Communists for Hillary & Barack
2007-09-30 20:47:38 UTC
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Post by Daniel Packman
.....
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
It's also a RED state, full of lying, perverted, inbred,
hyper-religious, homo-phobic,war-mongering Repugnikan scum. If that
floats your boat,
bring your crucifix, bible, racism and bigotry - ground zero for
those wretches is Colorado Springs.
.....
Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly
has a monopoly. Politically, the state seems to be in transition to a
better place.
Yes comrade, it is, to a marxist paradise under Hillary!
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-09-30 23:20:07 UTC
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Post by Communists for Hillary & Barack
Post by Daniel Packman
.....
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
It's also a RED state, full of lying, perverted, inbred,
hyper-religious, homo-phobic,war-mongering Repugnikan scum. If that
floats your boat,
bring your crucifix, bible, racism and bigotry - ground zero for
those wretches is Colorado Springs.
.....
Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly
has a monopoly. Politically, the state seems to be in transition to a
better place.
Yes comrade, it is, to a marxist paradise under Hillary!
So get off your cowardly ass and deploy to Baghdad to fight
and die for the neo-con LIES, scumbag.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-09-30 23:19:06 UTC
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Post by Daniel Packman
.....
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
It's also a RED state, full of lying, perverted, inbred,
hyper-religious, homo-phobic,war-mongering Repugnikan scum. If that
floats your boat, bring your crucifix, bible, racism and bigotry -
ground zero for those wretches is Colorado Springs.
.....
Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly has
a monopoly.
Only YOU made that assertion Danny. And it was YOU who
were so racially intolerant of Ward Churchill that you saw fit
to interject his ethnicity, or lack thereof, into the argument of
his academic fitness.
Post by Daniel Packman
Politically, the state seems to be in transition to a
better place.
Sez the Gov't employee who interjected race into the discussion
of Ward Chirchill's academic fitness.
Post by Daniel Packman
Also, the Denver urban area tends to be much less RED
than the rural areas. But this is true nationally.
Proof that Repugnikkkanism doesn't work in the real-world
social-economical human environment. It's a repugnant bigoted
racist ideology that only survives in the venal isolation of sub-urban,
sub-rural environs where human interaction is at a minimum.
Daniel Packman
2007-10-01 01:51:21 UTC
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Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly has
a monopoly.
Only YOU made that assertion Danny. And it was YOU who
were so racially intolerant of Ward Churchill that you saw fit
to interject his ethnicity, or lack thereof, into the argument of
his academic fitness. ....
Not even close to anything I said.
In fact, just about the opposite.
¥ UltraMan ¥
2007-10-01 03:45:03 UTC
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Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly
has a monopoly.
Only YOU made that assertion Danny. And it was YOU who
were so racially intolerant of Ward Churchill that you saw fit
to interject his ethnicity, or lack thereof, into the argument of
his academic fitness. ....
Not even close to anything I said.
In fact, just about the opposite.
Do clarify then this posting of yours:

From: ***@shell.dim.com (Daniel Packman)
Newsgroups: boulder.general,co.general,co.politics,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Good riddance to worthless impostor Ward Churchill
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:59:19 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: forethought user
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Churchill's attorney, David Lane, said he will file a lawsuit in
Denver District Court on Wednesday morning claiming CU fired
Churchill to retaliate against controversial remarks the professor
made about the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
CU should counter-sue to recover all the salary that Churchill has
received since being hired for a position that he was never qualified
to hold,
Funny, the University repeatedly found him not only qualified,
but deserving of extra merit and pay.
The recent findings of his plagiarism and lack of academic rigor
are at odds with these earlier findings. The university will have
to show that *all* faculty members have been held up to the same level of
scrutiny and only Churchill has been found academically wanting.
Post by Daniel Packman
And the most important people in this saga, the students, have
consistantly ranked him to be an excellent teacher, worthy
of awards.
Student rankings are important, but basic academic quality
must be considered a prerequisite.
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and that he obtained by fraud.
What fraud, jackass?
His claims of indian ancestry, perhaps?
Daniel Packman
2007-10-01 05:55:24 UTC
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Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly
has a monopoly.
Only YOU made that assertion Danny. And it was YOU who
were so racially intolerant of Ward Churchill that you saw fit
to interject his ethnicity, or lack thereof, into the argument of
his academic fitness. ....
Not even close to anything I said.
In fact, just about the opposite.
......
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by Daniel Packman
and that he obtained by fraud.
What fraud, jackass?
His claims of indian ancestry, perhaps?
The statement "and that he obtained by fraud" was
someone else's post. I was responding to the "What fraud"
question to clarify what this third party was getting at.
I wasn't completely sure what this other poster had in
mind so I used a question mark.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-01 17:47:17 UTC
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Post by Daniel Packman
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Colorado may have its share of intolerant shitheads, but it hardly
has a monopoly.
Only YOU made that assertion Danny. And it was YOU who
were so racially intolerant of Ward Churchill that you saw fit
to interject his ethnicity, or lack thereof, into the argument of
his academic fitness. ....
Not even close to anything I said.
In fact, just about the opposite.
......
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by Daniel Packman
and that he obtained by fraud.
What fraud, jackass?
His claims of indian ancestry, perhaps?
The statement "and that he obtained by fraud" was
someone else's post. I was responding to the "What fraud"
question to clarify what this third party was getting at.
I wasn't completely sure what this other poster had in
mind so I used a question mark.
So you did interject the issue of race, not knowing whether
the other poster was referring to race or not.

Why would you further such a repugnant bigoted
irrelevant racial smear tactic?

It's quite telling that you haven't, in all your dancing around
on the hot skillet, unequivocally condemned, without reservation
or qualification, the entire topic of -- and anyone who ever
suggested -- such racialy motivated attacks, especially as it's been used
against Ward Churchill in his position as Professor at the
University of Colorado.

You of all people should be ashamed.
Daniel Packman
2007-10-03 04:59:19 UTC
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....
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
The statement "and that he obtained by fraud" was
someone else's post. I was responding to the "What fraud"
question to clarify what this third party was getting at.
I wasn't completely sure what this other poster had in
mind so I used a question mark.
So you did interject the issue of race, not knowing whether
the other poster was referring to race or not.
No, the issue was not mine. Media coverage made it
an issue and made it seem likely to anyone following
the story that that was was the poster was referring to.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you further such a repugnant bigoted
irrelevant racial smear tactic?....
The smear is in your interpretation alone.
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-03 06:55:32 UTC
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Post by Daniel Packman
....
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
The statement "and that he obtained by fraud" was
someone else's post. I was responding to the "What fraud"
question to clarify what this third party was getting at.
I wasn't completely sure what this other poster had in
mind so I used a question mark.
So you did interject the issue of race, not knowing whether
the other poster was referring to race or not.
No, the issue was not mine. Media coverage made it
an issue and made it seem likely to anyone following
the story that that was was the poster was referring to.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you further such a repugnant bigoted
irrelevant racial smear tactic?....
The smear is in your interpretation alone.
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Daniel Packman
2007-10-03 16:34:22 UTC
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Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.

On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-03 19:14:28 UTC
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Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.

Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of the
man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous Excellence
in Teaching awards. The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
metaluna
2007-10-04 17:55:06 UTC
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Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of the
man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous Excellence
in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit, given their
callow years. Popularity contests most times favor personality over
professionalism.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.

http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html

...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which was
voted on by a significant majority of participating students...

http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php

The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill for
a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to think (or
want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's
sterling qualities as an educator and all-around righteous human being.
The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we pointed out over two years
ago, this monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in which 54
members of CU's student body of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-04 20:29:50 UTC
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Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of the
man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous Excellence
in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!

Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor personality over
professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which was
voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation of
Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came from
an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award. Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
metaluna
2007-10-04 21:10:31 UTC
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Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of the
man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous Excellence
in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor personality over
professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.

Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which was
voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation of
Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came from
an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not actively
teaching.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-04 21:16:01 UTC
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Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of
the man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous
Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which
was voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation
of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came
from an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still on
the payroll.
metaluna
2007-10-04 21:31:44 UTC
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Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of
the man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous
Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not. There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which
was voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation
of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came
from an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still on
the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?

If so, I concur.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-06 20:09:08 UTC
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Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of
the man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous
Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University popularity contest
with a public election.
Your conflation.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which
was voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation
of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came
from an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still on
the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues, much
less matters of national importance?

Why do you despise young adults?
metaluna
2007-10-07 16:54:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of
the man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous
Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University popularity contest
with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.

Who hires the professors?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which
was voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation
of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came
from an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.

The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions and creative historical revisionism made any
award recognizing his "teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still on
the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues, much
less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point I
concurred with, don't you?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.

Why do you bandy about false accusations?

You do not argue your points very well at all.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-07 21:20:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of
the man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous
Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University popularity
contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which
was voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation
of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came
from an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.

Why would you deny a democratic vote ?

Are you a fascist?
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his "teaching "
accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still on
the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues, much
less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point I concurred
with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner, and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
metaluna
2007-10-07 23:09:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few private/unofficial
classes at CU this month. I wish I had the time and opportunity
to sit in on some of these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently highly of
the man, as a professor, to democratically vote him numerous
Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University popularity
contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll. But I do question their
overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence, which
was voted on by a significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward Churchill
for a teaching award, which both the commenter and Leupp seem to
think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming public affirmation
of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator and all-around
righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less impressive; as we
pointed out over two years ago, this monolithic acclamation came
from an online poll in which 54 members of CU's student body of nearly
30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his "teaching "
accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still on
the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues, much
less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point I concurred
with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
¥ UltraMan ¥
2007-10-08 02:20:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I had
the time and opportunity to sit in on some of these to take
a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically vote
him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme
importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections. If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?

Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence,
which was voted on by a significant majority of participating
students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward
Churchill for a teaching award, which both the commenter and
Leupp seem to think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming
public affirmation of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator
and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less
impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago, this
monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in which 54 members of
CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.

The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't. Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his
"teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still
on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues,
much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point
I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying fascist chickenhawk
shitsucker.
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or what you've
done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have been exposed
for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's hunted down the
fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall shitbags like you
forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you will be brought
to a
swift and righteous justice.
metaluna
2007-10-08 05:42:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges to
communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I had
the time and opportunity to sit in on some of these to take
a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically vote
him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times favor
personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme
importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.

When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits, not any
imbued persona.

Try again.

Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.

Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke some pot"
day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude scatological
name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence,
which was voted on by a significant majority of participating
students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward
Churchill for a teaching award, which both the commenter and
Leupp seem to think (or want us to think) was an overwhelming
public affirmation of Churchill's sterling qualities as an educator
and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less
impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago, this
monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in which 54 members of
CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Another non sequitur.

You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in crude
and crass terms.

In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task given your
paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.

Truth is.

Wardo has lied and been caught.

His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his
"teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor not
actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers" still
on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues,
much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point
I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.

Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.

Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying fascist chickenhawk
shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.

Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking, rhetorical
irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or what you've
done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have been exposed
for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's hunted down the
fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall shitbags like you
forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you will be brought
to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?

Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.

I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
¥ UltraMan ¥
2007-10-08 08:45:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges
to communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I had
the time and opportunity to sit in on some of these to
take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically vote
him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times
favor personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme
importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.
When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits, not
any imbued persona.
Try again.
Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.
Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke some pot"
day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude scatological
name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for
sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld
those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence,
which was voted on by a significant majority of
participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward
Churchill for a teaching award, which both the commenter and
Leupp seem to think (or want us to think) was an
overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's sterling qualities as an
educator and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less
impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago, this
monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in which 54
members of CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Another non sequitur.
You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in crude
and crass terms.
In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task given
your paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.
Truth is.
Wardo has lied and been caught.
His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his
"teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor
not actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers"
still on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues,
much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point
I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.
Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.
Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying fascist
chickenhawk shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.
Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking, rhetorical
irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or what
you've done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have
been exposed for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's
hunted down the fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall shitbags
like you forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you will
be brought to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?
Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.
I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wp
metaluna
2007-10-08 17:18:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges
to communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I had
the time and opportunity to sit in on some of these to
take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few
photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically vote
him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times
favor personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme
importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.
When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits, not
any imbued persona.
Try again.
Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.
Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke some pot"
day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude scatological
name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for
sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld
those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence,
which was voted on by a significant majority of
participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward
Churchill for a teaching award, which both the commenter and
Leupp seem to think (or want us to think) was an
overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's sterling qualities as an
educator and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less
impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago, this
monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in which 54
members of CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Another non sequitur.
You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in crude
and crass terms.
In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task given
your paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.
Truth is.
Wardo has lied and been caught.
His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his
"teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor
not actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers"
still on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues,
much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point
I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.
Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.
Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying fascist
chickenhawk shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.
Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking, rhetorical
irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or what
you've done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have
been exposed for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's
hunted down the fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall shitbags
like you forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you will
be brought to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?
Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.
I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wp
At a loss for words are you?

I'm not surprised.

Toodles.
_ Prof. Jonez _
2007-10-08 18:32:51 UTC
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Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges
to communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I had
the time and opportunity to sit in on some of these to
take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few
photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically vote
him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times
favor personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.
When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits, not
any imbued persona.
Try again.
Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.
Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke some pot"
day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude scatological
name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for
sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld
those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence,
which was voted on by a significant majority of
participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward
Churchill for a teaching award, which both the commenter and
Leupp seem to think (or want us to think) was an
overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's sterling qualities
as an
educator and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less
impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago, this
monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in which 54
members of CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Another non sequitur.
You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in crude
and crass terms.
In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task given
your paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.
Truth is.
Wardo has lied and been caught.
His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his
"teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor
not actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers"
still on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues,
much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point
I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.
Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.
Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying fascist
chickenhawk shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.
Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking, rhetorical
irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or what
you've done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have
been exposed for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's
hunted down the fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall shitbags
like you forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you will
be brought to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?
Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.
I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wp
At a loss for words are you?
I'm not surprised.
Toodles.
Remember that image, scumbag. May in burn in your cowardly mind
every minute of every day for the rest of your wretched life, and may
it be amplified 4000 times for each and every one of the U$ dupes
who were sent to slaughter for your repugnant avaricious neo-con lies.
metaluna
2007-10-08 19:16:57 UTC
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Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is academic
rigor and honesty. And the issue of fairnees in its
application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique challenges
to communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I had
the time and opportunity to sit in on some of these to
take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few
photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically vote
him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic merit,
ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times
favor personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.
When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits, not
any imbued persona.
Try again.
Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.
Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke some pot"
day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude scatological
name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity for
sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college professors,
but trust them to vote on matters of national societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally withheld
those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the ongoing
investigation to withhold an award for teaching excellence,
which was voted on by a significant majority of
participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated Ward
Churchill for a teaching award, which both the commenter and
Leupp seem to think (or want us to think) was an
overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's sterling qualities
as an
educator and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat less
impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago, this
monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in which 54
members of CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Another non sequitur.
You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in crude
and crass terms.
In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task given
your paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.
Truth is.
Wardo has lied and been caught.
His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award recognizing his
"teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a professor
not actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers"
still on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial" issues,
much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the point
I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble attempt to
extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.
Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.
Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying fascist
chickenhawk shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.
Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking, rhetorical
irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or what
you've done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have
been exposed for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's
hunted down the fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall shitbags
like you forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you will
be brought to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?
Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.
I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wp
At a loss for words are you?
I'm not surprised.
Toodles.
Remember that image, scumbag. May in burn in your cowardly mind
every minute of every day for the rest of your wretched life, and may
it be amplified 4000 times for each and every one of the U$ dupes
who were sent to slaughter for your repugnant avaricious neo-con lies.
I didn't open your link, you hyper-emotional wreck.

You remain an anrgy, impotent little nothing.

Enjoy.
¥ UltraMan ¥
2007-10-09 07:40:37 UTC
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Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is
academic rigor and honesty. And the issue of
fairnees in its application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique
challenges to communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I
had the time and opportunity to sit in on some of
these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few
photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically
vote him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic
merit, ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times
favor personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known
universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.
When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits,
not any imbued persona.
Try again.
Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.
Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke some
pot" day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude
scatological name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity
for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college
professors, but trust them to vote on matters of national
societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally
withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the
ongoing investigation to withhold an award for teaching
excellence, which was voted on by a significant
majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated
Ward Churchill for a teaching award, which both the
commenter and Leupp seem to think (or want us to think)
was an overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's sterling
qualities as an
educator and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat
less impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago,
this monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in
which 54 members of CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Another non sequitur.
You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in
crude and crass terms.
In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task
given your paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated
professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.
Truth is.
Wardo has lied and been caught.
His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award
recognizing his "teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a
professor not actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers"
still on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial"
issues, much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the
point I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble
attempt to extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.
Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.
Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying
fascist chickenhawk shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.
Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking,
rhetorical irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or
what you've done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have
been exposed for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's
hunted down the fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall
shitbags like you forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you
will be brought to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?
Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.
I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wp
At a loss for words are you?
I'm not surprised.
Toodles.
Remember that image, scumbag. May in burn in your cowardly mind
every minute of every day for the rest of your wretched life, and may
it be amplified 4000 times for each and every one of the U$ dupes
who were sent to slaughter for your repugnant avaricious neo-con lies.
I didn't open your link,
Typical response from a repug coward ... and an abject lie.
Post by metaluna
You remain an anrgy,
Stammer much, shiteater ?

Never forget, you will be brought to justice you exterminable
sub-human lying neo-con scumbag. May your family suffer
the same terror and pain you so cavalierly visit upon innocent
civilians of foreign nations.

The tragedy you so recently suffered will be nothing in compare.
metaluna
2007-10-09 14:50:13 UTC
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Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is
academic rigor and honesty. And the issue of
fairnees in its application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race regarding
Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique
challenges to communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish I
had the time and opportunity to sit in on some of
these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a few
photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though sufficiently
highly of the man, as a professor, to democratically
vote him numerous Excellence in Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic
merit, ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most times
favor personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme
importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a University
popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.
When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits,
not any imbued persona.
Try again.
Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.
Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke some
pot" day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude
scatological name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
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Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity
for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college
professors, but trust them to vote on matters of national
societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally
withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the
ongoing investigation to withhold an award for teaching
excellence, which was voted on by a significant
majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated
Ward Churchill for a teaching award, which both the
commenter and Leupp seem to think (or want us to think)
was an overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's sterling
qualities as an
educator and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is somewhat
less impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago,
this monolithic acclamation came from an online poll in
which 54 members of CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it don't
change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into office.
Another non sequitur.
You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in
crude and crass terms.
In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task
given your paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated
professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.
Truth is.
Wardo has lied and been caught.
His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need to
withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award
recognizing his "teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your mythical
30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a
professor not actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other "teachers"
still on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial"
issues, much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the
point I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble
attempt to extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.
Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.
Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying
fascist chickenhawk shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.
Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking,
rhetorical irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or
what you've done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons have
been exposed for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the Israeli's
hunted down the fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall
shitbags like you forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you
will be brought to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?
Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.
I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wp
At a loss for words are you?
I'm not surprised.
Toodles.
Remember that image, scumbag. May in burn in your cowardly mind
every minute of every day for the rest of your wretched life, and may
it be amplified 4000 times for each and every one of the U$ dupes
who were sent to slaughter for your repugnant avaricious neo-con lies.
I didn't open your link,
Typical response from a repug coward ... and an abject lie.
Unprovable indictments from an angry, impotent liberal.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
You remain an anrgy,
Stammer much, shiteater ?
Not in the slightest, you coprophylic obsessor.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Never forget, you will be brought to justice you exterminable
sub-human lying neo-con scumbag. May your family suffer
the same terror and pain you so cavalierly visit upon innocent
civilians of foreign nations.
You have oddly paranoiac and revealing delusions.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The tragedy you so recently suffered will be nothing in compare.
I'm over the Broncos blowout, and the rest of the season for that matter.

Toodles.
¥ UltraMan ¥
2007-10-11 10:26:55 UTC
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Post by metaluna
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Post by Daniel Packman
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by Daniel Packman
....
As I pointed out then, the only valid issue is
academic rigor and honesty. And the issue of
fairnees in its application to all faculty.
Explanation accepted. Accept my apology for any
misinterpretation of your remark about race
regarding Ward Churchill.
Certainly. This medium seems to present unique
challenges to communication.
On a related note, Churchill is giving a few
private/unofficial classes at CU this month. I wish
I had the time and opportunity to sit in on some of
these to take a more personal measure of the man.
Time is what you make of it, a few photons here, a
few photons there.
Is that an attempt to sound erudite?
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Over the decades his students have though
sufficiently highly of the man, as a professor, to
democratically vote him numerous Excellence in
Teaching awards.
Students are the least equipped to judge academic
merit, ROTFLMAO !!
Good one.
Post by metaluna
given their callow years. Popularity contests most
times favor personality over professionalism.
Yet ... you allow them to Vote on matters of extreme
importance.
Non sequitur.
Wrong.
Indeed not.
Still wrong.
Not for a moment, it's a non-related subject area.
Now and for all eternity, in every element of the known universe.
Keep up the lie, you remain consistently wrong.
You're lying again.
You have switched nyms.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
There are many kinds of voting, do not conflate a
University popularity contest with a public election.
Your conflation.
It was your statement, try again.
You asserted that College students can't be trusted to vote
on matters of import.
I asserted their award was a popularity poll.
As are all democratic elections.
No, wrong.
When I vote for a given ballot initiative I do so on its merits,
not any imbued persona.
Try again.
Fool.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
If you don't like
the system here, then move your cowardly ass over
to the newly minted "free democracies" of Iraq or
Afghanistan.
I tendered no complaint on our system.
Tilt windmills at your leisure, but do not credit me with their ownership.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
But I do question their overall experience and wisdom, who wouldn't?
You, an non CU college student would question the vote
of the CU college students as to whom they decided was
their better/best professor?
As would I question their judgment in the campus-wide "smoke
some pot" day protest.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Your arrogance is showing again, shitwipe.
Your penchant to lose debates and degenerate into crude
scatological name-calling is in full flower.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Do not conflate their _basic rights_ with their capacity
for sound judgment.
Riiight. Can't trust them to rate their own college
professors, but trust them to vote on matters of national
societal import.
The laws are the laws.
Who makes the laws?
Society.
Who hires the professors?
Bureaucrats.
Can we say tenure...
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
The fascists and neo-con shiteaters in the University
Administration have arbitrarily and unilaterally
withheld those awards.
You are an angry little impotent pipsqueak.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2005/09/update_on_unive.html
...the University has used the very existence of the
ongoing investigation to withhold an award for
teaching excellence, which was voted on by a
significant majority of participating students...
http://www.pirateballerina.com/archives/archive_2007-m06.php
The vote being referred to is the one that nominated
Ward Churchill for a teaching award, which both the
commenter and Leupp seem to think (or want us to
think) was an overwhelming public affirmation of Churchill's
sterling qualities as an
educator and
all-around righteous human being. The truth is
somewhat less impressive; as we pointed out over two years ago,
this monolithic acclamation came from an online poll
in which 54 members of CU's student body
of nearly 30,000 voted for Churchill.
Yet, he still won the award.
Forfeit due to pervasive academic and literary fraud.
Yet, he still won the award.
A trivial honor soon forfeited.
Yet, he still won the award.
He won a popularity contest.
He won the award, as voted by the students.
While engaged in plagiarism.
Could have been while masturbating to American the Beautiful
being played on a kazoo.
Plagiary regardless.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The students democratically elected him as the recipient of
the award.
They were unaware (one hopes) of his deceits.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why would you deny a democratic vote ?
Because he is a fraud.
And Larry Craig is a public-toilet cocksucking pervert, it
don't change the fact that the people of Idaho voted him into
office. Another non sequitur.
You humiliate yourself to service partisan rhetoric.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Are you a fascist?
Is that your favorite word?
When addressing fascists? Yeah, it's clear and concise.
You demonstrate a need to libel and slander debate opponents in
crude and crass terms.
In doing so you diminish only yourself, and that is some task
given your paucity of credibility.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
The "award" can only be given to a legitimate seated
professor.
He was a legitimate seated, and standing, professor.
He was illegitimate academically.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Even if you're granted the minutia in dispute
from a few papers, 99% of his entire academic
body of work is not in dispute, and no peer, academic, or
governing body of the university even makes that assertion.
The % of printed matter is not the issue.
Truth is.
Wardo has lied and been caught.
His voluminous published record will not salve his obvious lies.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
And it wasn't too trivial for the fascists to feel a need
to withhold it, now was it ?
His plagiarist actions
Which ones, like exactly?
See the record, it's all out there.
I've seen the few disputes, and I've seen other
tenured experts in the field of study side with
Churchill after extensive study of the matter.
You refer, of course, to the now few tenured professors who side with him.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
and creative historical revisionism made any award
recognizing his "teaching " accomplishments suspect at best.
More or less suspect that the Iraq WMD lies ?
Another non sequitur.
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Imagine how pathetic the other Professors
must be garnering less than 54 votes out of your
mythical 30,000.
Imagine the award being fraudulently granted to a
professor not actively teaching.
Imagine Churchill being rated higher than other
"teachers" still on the payroll.
Is this an indictment of student acumen?
More so of the incompetence of the other teachers still on
the payroll.
Post by metaluna
If so, I concur.
That 18 yr olds shouldn't be trusted to vote on "trivial"
issues, much less matters of national importance?
You do realize, as any sane reader would, that was _not_ the
point I concurred with, don't you?
You do realize you've painted yourself into a corner,
No, I do not.
That would explain the paint all over your shoes.
Your loss is evident for all to see.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
and the readers,
both sane and less than, can see you dancing in a feeble
attempt to extricate yourself.
Repeating a lie does not imbue it with veracity.
Repeating a denial does not make the truth disappear.
You are the liar.
Case closed.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Why do you despise young adults?
I don't.
Why do you bandy about false accusations?
Why do you dismiss and deny the democratic vote
of citizens ?
Because Wardo is a fraud.
No one of any import or substance has made that assertion.
"Import" is not the metric of truth.
Are you a closet Bush supporter?
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
Post by _ Prof. Jonez _
Post by metaluna
You do not argue your points very well at all.
Do tell.
I just did, again.
You're still gonna die a slow, pain filled death, you lying
fascist chickenhawk shitsucker.
Here is where your sad impotence flares brightly for all to see.
Thank you for reverting to your hyper-emotional, attacking,
rhetorical irrationality.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Don't think for a moment that anyone has forgotten about you or
what you've done, or
that you'll slip back into your sewer now that you neo-cons
have been exposed for
the exterminable sub-human scum that you are. Like the
Israeli's hunted down the fascists
to the ends of the earth and to the end of time, so shall
shitbags like you forever hear footsteps
over your shoulder, until one day when you least expect it, you
will be brought to a
swift and righteous justice.
Prozac script run out?
Seek psychological counseling you impotent hate-sack.
I pity you your personal prison of a mind.
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wp
At a loss for words are you?
I'm not surprised.
Toodles.
Remember that image, scumbag. May in burn in your cowardly mind
every minute of every day for the rest of your wretched life, and
may it be amplified 4000 times for each and every one of the U$
dupes who were sent to slaughter for your repugnant avaricious
neo-con lies.
I didn't open your link,
Typical response from a repug coward ... and an abject lie.
Unprovable indictments from an angry, impotent liberal.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Post by metaluna
You remain an anrgy,
Stammer much, shiteater ?
Not in the slightest, you coprophylic obsessor.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
Never forget, you will be brought to justice you exterminable
sub-human lying neo-con scumbag. May your family suffer
the same terror and pain you so cavalierly visit upon innocent
civilians of foreign nations.
You have oddly paranoiac and revealing delusions.
Post by ¥ UltraMan ¥
The tragedy you so recently suffered will be nothing in compare.
I'm over
Soon enough, scumbag, soon enough.

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